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		<title>&#8220;They&#8217;re Made of Meat&#8221;</title>
		<link>http://2ndlifer.net/2007/08/24/theyre-made-of-meat/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 20:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>DesertWolf</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is for Esteban&#8230;.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is for Esteban&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Out in the World</title>
		<link>http://2ndlifer.net/2007/07/23/out-in-the-world/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 23:48:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>DesertWolf</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[OK, I don&#8217;t know if I should blame it on Myg &#38; Esteban, or the Linden&#8217;s, but the other day dinee and I found ourselves out of SL just like Myg had&#8230;&#8230;

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, I don&#8217;t know if I should blame it on <a href="http://mygdala.com/2007/07/20/message-to-esteban/">Myg &amp; Esteban</a>, or the Linden&#8217;s, but the other day <a href="http://dinee.wordpress.com">dinee</a> and I found ourselves out of SL just like <a href="http://mygdala.com/">Myg</a> had&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>The Wedding of Zefiner &amp;  ChanceDevin</title>
		<link>http://2ndlifer.net/2007/06/30/the-wedding-of-zefiner-chancedevin/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jun 2007 21:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>DesertWolf</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last week I received an invitation from one of the group that own the land were I rent,  Zefiner had sent me an invitation to her wedding.
dinee and I sitting on the on the invite ( it even came with poseballs).

So last night dinee and I attended the wedding, it was held at Monterey [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last week I received an invitation from one of the group that own the land were I rent,  Zefiner had sent me an invitation to her wedding.</p>
<p>dinee and I sitting on the on the invite ( it even came with poseballs).</p>
<p><a href="http://2ndlifer.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/zefinersweddinginvite_001crop001.jpg" title="zefinersweddinginvite_001crop001.jpg" rel="lightbox[145]"><img src="http://2ndlifer.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/zefinersweddinginvite_001crop001.jpg" alt="zefinersweddinginvite_001crop001.jpg" /></a></p>
<p>So last night dinee and I attended the wedding, it was held at Monterey d Alliez, at the the Love Knot Wedding Chapel, which is a beautiful area.</p>
<p><a href="http://2ndlifer.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/zefinerswedding_002001.jpg" title="zefinerswedding_002001.jpg" rel="lightbox[145]"><img src="http://2ndlifer.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/zefinerswedding_002001.jpg" alt="zefinerswedding_002001.jpg" /></a></p>
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<p>The nervous  groom,</p>
<p><a href="http://2ndlifer.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/zefinerswedding_004001.jpg" title="zefinerswedding_004001.jpg" rel="lightbox[145]"><img src="http://2ndlifer.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/zefinerswedding_004001.jpg" alt="zefinerswedding_004001.jpg" /></a></p>
<p>and Bride,</p>
<p><a href="http://2ndlifer.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/zefinerswedding_005001.jpg" title="zefinerswedding_005001.jpg" rel="lightbox[145]"><img src="http://2ndlifer.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/zefinerswedding_005001.jpg" alt="zefinerswedding_005001.jpg" /></a></p>
<p>It was a beautiful ceremony, the Bride &amp; Groom made their own vows.</p>
<p><a href="http://2ndlifer.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/zefinerswedding_008001.jpg" title="zefinerswedding_008001.jpg" rel="lightbox[145]"><img src="http://2ndlifer.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/zefinerswedding_008001.jpg" alt="zefinerswedding_008001.jpg" /></a></p>
<p><a href="http://2ndlifer.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/zefinerswedding_010001.jpg" title="zefinerswedding_010001.jpg" rel="lightbox[145]"><img src="http://2ndlifer.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/zefinerswedding_010001.jpg" alt="zefinerswedding_010001.jpg" /></a></p>
<p>and the moment they were waiting for..</p>
<p>&#8220;Chance, you may now kiss your lovely beautiful bride, Zefiner&#8221;</p>
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<p>Zef &amp; Chance, I wish you the best and happiness forever.</p>
<p>There are some more pics <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/8004617@N06/sets/72157600573391657/">here</a>.
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		<title>Acoustic Night at the Bluff Lodge</title>
		<link>http://2ndlifer.net/2007/06/21/acoustic-night-at-the-bluff-lodge/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jun 2007 22:17:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>DesertWolf</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Last night dinee and I went to the Bluff Lodge to hear DJ Raine Daligdig. She played acoustic tracks all night and had a good mix. The Bluff Lodge is out there a bit.. there were even buffalo and moose wandering around outside, but it is a nice place, plenty of room to dance. Was [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last night dinee and I went to the Bluff Lodge to hear DJ Raine Daligdig. She played acoustic tracks all night and had a good mix. The Bluff Lodge is out there a bit.. there were even buffalo and moose wandering around outside, but it is a nice place, plenty of room to dance. Was a nice mix of furries and humans, though I think dinee and I were the only neko there.. but the furries made up for it, by the end of the night there were 3 skunks, a rabbit and a dinosaur. It looks like DJ Raine does her thing at the Bluff Lodge every Wendsday  night at 9 SLT, so if your looking for some different music I suggest checking it out.
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		<title>Welcome 2 new members to SL Bloggers.. and a little about a party..</title>
		<link>http://2ndlifer.net/2007/06/20/welcome-2-new-members-to-sl-bloggers-and-a-little-about-a-party/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 22:20:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>DesertWolf</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would like to welcome Britneyj Crimson &#38; MikeG1 Schumann to the SL Bloggers group! I know MikeG1 from Information Week &#38; Dr. Dobbs events and get togethers, but last night got to spend some time with him and his lovely partner Britneyj. I logged on after a sucky afternoon of dealing with a crashed [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to welcome Britneyj Crimson &amp; MikeG1 Schumann to the SL Bloggers group! I know MikeG1 from Information Week &amp; Dr. Dobbs events and get togethers, but last night got to spend some time with him and his lovely partner Britneyj. I logged on after a sucky afternoon of dealing with a crashed phone system in RL, and mad because of the phone system, and the fact I missed the Information Week kaffeeklatch that is held at 6pm SLT every Tuesday. I get logged on and <a href="http://dinee.wordpress.com">dinee</a> IM&#8217;s me and tells me the meet kind of moved over to MikeG1&#8217;s  place for a party, the theme was &#8220;Roaring 20&#8217;s&#8221;..and did I want to join them..well I took a few mins to catch my breath and find a tux that was appropriate. I had dinee send me a TP, and I landed in a house larger than some clubs I have been to.. Well after saying hello to everyone, which included John Zhaoying, Rissa Maidstone, <a href="http://calicocreations.blogspot.com/">Calico Ingmann</a> , and meeting Britneyj, dinee and I danced for a while. After a while a friend of MikeG1 &amp; Britneyj, LittleRaven Benelli showed up and brought a &#8220;Truth or Dare&#8221; game with her. The game proceeded to to embarrass very one playing..will not go into details to protect the not so innocent. <a href="http://www.informationweek.com/blog/main/archives/second_life/index.html">Ziggy Figaro</a> even made an appearance while we were playing. After we ran the game through all it&#8217;s questions, one of the ladies brought out a fight pillow, and we promptly moved into a pillow fight then a frying pan fight, dinee even pulled out her the infamous TP gun (that is toilet paper)&#8230;till every one was pretty much tired out. Well dinee and I thanked our hosts for a lovely evening, and headed off for the night.
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		<title>Welcome blogger Catherine Omega!</title>
		<link>http://2ndlifer.net/2007/06/13/welcome-blogger-catherine-omega/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jun 2007 19:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I met Catherine at the Digital Hollywood event last night and she mentioned  she had a blog. I mentioned the SL Bloggers group and asked if she would like to join, said she would but her groups were at its limits (damn 25 limit).  I asked her if she would mind if we [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I met Catherine at the Digital Hollywood event last night and she mentioned  she had a blog. I mentioned the SL Bloggers group and asked if she would like to join, said she would but her groups were at its limits (damn 25 limit).  I asked her if she would mind if we added her to the blogroll for the SL Blogosphere and she said &#8220;No, that would be great!&#8221;. So Zoe, if you would add her to the blogroll please and check out <a href="http://catherineomega.com/">Omega Point</a>.
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		<title>My Pirate Name</title>
		<link>http://2ndlifer.net/2007/06/05/my-pirate-name/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Jun 2007 23:27:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By way of dinee and Zoe.
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     My pirate name is:
     Black Roger Vane
  
     Like anyone confronted with the harshness of robbery on the high seas, you can be pessimistic at times. You tend to blend into the background occaisionally, but that&#8217;s [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By way of <a href="http://dinee.wordpress.com/">dinee</a> and <a href="http://zoeconnolly.blogspot.com/">Zoe</a>.</p>
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<p>     My pirate name is:</p>
<p style="font-size:32px;">     Black Roger Vane</p>
<p>  <img src="http://www.piratequiz.com/flag.gif" style="top:5px;position:relative;display:block;width:100px;background-color:#332200;" /></p>
<p style="left:110px;top:-60px;width:290px;position:relative;text-align:justify;">     Like anyone confronted with the harshness of robbery on the high seas, you can be pessimistic at times. You tend to blend into the background occaisionally, but that&#8217;s okay, because it&#8217;s much easier to sneak up on people and disembowel them that way.    Arr!</p>
<p>  <a href="http://www.piratequiz.com/">Get your own pirate name from piratequiz.com.</a><br />
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		<title>Sex In Second Life &#8212; Virtual Worlds &#8212; InformationWeek</title>
		<link>http://2ndlifer.net/2007/05/29/sex-in-second-life-virtual-worlds-informationweek/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 May 2007 16:25:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good article from the parent company of Dr. Dobb&#8217;s Island in SL, CMP, who sponsored the Life 2.0 summit
Sex In Second Life &#8212; Virtual Worlds &#8212; InformationWeek
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article from the parent company of Dr. Dobb&#8217;s Island in SL, CMP, who sponsored the <a href="http://life20.net/">Life 2.0 summit</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=199701944">Sex In Second Life &#8212; Virtual Worlds &#8212; InformationWeek</a>
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		<title>My conversation with Honey Wendt</title>
		<link>http://2ndlifer.net/2007/05/24/my-conversation-with-honey-wendt/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 May 2007 16:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well yesterday was an unusual one for me to begin with, but then from out of the blue I get an IM from Ms. Honey Wendt. Seems she wanted to talk to me about some comments I posted on a blog entry that Vint posted about her conversation with Ms. Wendt. So in order not [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well yesterday was an unusual one for me to begin with, but then from out of the blue I get an IM from <a href="http://honeywendt.blogspot.com/">Ms. Honey Wendt</a>. Seems she wanted to talk to me about some comments I posted on a <a href="http://www.vintfalken.com/cp-in-sl-honey-wendts-opinion/">blog entry that Vint posted about her conversation with Ms. Wendt</a>. So in order not to slant the conversation in any way by cutting sections out to use, here is the log of the entire conversation.</p>
<blockquote><p>[21:08]  Honey Wendt: Hello, I saw your comment on Vint&#8217;s page. I&#8217;d like to tell you that the conversation between me and her was totally different from what she posted, since she wanted this type of attention, I just muted her and never responded back to her.<br />
[21:09]  DesertWolf Longstaff: I am open to hear both sides of a story, how was it diffrent?<br />
[21:09]  Honey Wendt: She just used cut and pasted one conversation in different posts, in every one of them she&#8217;s telling me &#8220;I&#8217;m trying to fix my computer but I don&#8217;t get it&#8221;..<br />
[21:10]  Honey Wendt: I can e-mail you the entire log.<br />
[21:10]  Honey Wendt: It&#8217;s just me and some friends explaining this basic concept of TSO&#8217;s legal status within and outside SL and she not understanding it<br />
[21:10]  Honey Wendt: Seems like she liked talking a lot about that chat lol.<br />
[21:11]  DesertWolf Longstaff: I understand what you are saying about SL TOS not being valid or enforceable outside of SL.<br />
[21:11]  Honey Wendt: It&#8217;s not that.<br />
[21:11]  Honey Wendt: My whole conversation was me trying to get this idea to her and she&#8217;s saying something else.<br />
[21:11]  Honey Wendt: She has edited all that out.<br />
[21:12]  Honey Wendt: That&#8217;s why I post full logs of conversations.<br />
[21:13]  Honey Wendt: &gt; I had thought about commenting on her blog, but figured it would be a waste of time, and your follow up comments about your conversations with her prove it.   . To be honest we have probably brought her more attention than she deserves.<br />
[21:15]  Honey Wendt: ??<br />
[21:15]  DesertWolf Longstaff: Have you read all my posts?<br />
[21:15]  Honey Wendt: I&#8217;m not following it.<br />
[21:15]  Honey Wendt: do you have an e-mail?<br />
[21:16]  DesertWolf Longstaff: desertwolf.longstaff@gmail.com<br />
[21:16]  Honey Wendt: Vint was milking me for comments/quotes, I just kept saying the asme thing<br />
[21:16]  Honey Wendt: Let me send you this log<br />
[21:16]  DesertWolf Longstaff: k<br />
[21:17]  DesertWolf Longstaff: I agree with you in theory about age play, but I think your approach is hypocritical..<br />
[21:17]  Honey Wendt: She was offline and asking me the same question over and over, it&#8217;s pretty apparent she was trying to get me to comment so she can post stuff on her blog lol<br />
[21:18]  Honey Wendt: This is not about age-play.<br />
[21:18]  Honey Wendt is typing&#8230;<br />
[21:18]  Honey Wendt: How is my apprach hypocritical?<br />
[21:19]  Honey Wendt: If we are discussing age-play?<br />
[21:19]  Honey Wendt: Her whole thing was bout the valdity of Terms of Services outside the bounds defined by those.<br />
[21:19]  DesertWolf Longstaff: no but the fact you use the TOS to against people in SL then do the thing you  get on them about&#8230;<br />
[21:19]  Honey Wendt: But, the ToS is only valid within SL.<br />
[21:20]  DesertWolf Longstaff: yes, but comon decency and expecting to be treated the way others treat you is not<br />
[21:20]  Honey Wendt: Do you understand or you should read that e-mail I explained it a dozen times to her, while she was asking me the same question.<br />
[21:20]  Honey Wendt: Common decency?<br />
[21:21]  Honey Wendt: Mr. Longstaff are you defending these people?<br />
[21:21]  DesertWolf Longstaff: no..I thought we were not talking about age play?<br />
[21:21]  Honey Wendt: My whole thing was against Linden Labs.<br />
[21:21]  Honey Wendt: I filed multiple complaints as per their new rules, that did not work so I had to post it there.<br />
[21:22]  Honey Wendt: Yes we arn&#8217;t talking about age-play.<br />
[21:22]  Honey Wendt: Did you read my e-mail?<br />
[21:22]  Honey Wendt: Then I think you&#8217;d understand where a ToS applies.<br />
[21:22]  DesertWolf Longstaff: let me read the log you sent then I will get back to you, OK?<br />
[21:22]  Honey Wendt: Sure.<br />
[21:36]  DesertWolf Longstaff: OK, so Your point is that the SL TOS is not binding outside of SL..I understand that. That you are free to post any such conversations you have with anyone, including this one right now, to your 3rd party blog, and you are doing nothing illegal.<br />
[21:36]  DesertWolf Longstaff: Have I got it right so far?<br />
[21:44]  DesertWolf Longstaff: It is obvious you read my last comment on Vint&#8217;s post, but did you read the earlier one?</p>
<p>[21:58]  Honey Wendt: (Saved Wed May 23 21:29:18 2007) As you can see by her language she was trying very hard to provoke me, it&#8217;s  quite apparent she was looking for a &#8220;story&#8221;. I didn&#8217;t bother with her cause she had no idea what the whole Linden deal was, she was too stuck up with ToS violations and age-play to see that a Linden was alt abusing.<br />
[21:58]  Honey Wendt: (Saved Wed May 23 21:37:25 2007) I have a question, are you Vint Falken&#8217;s alt?<br />
[21:58]  Honey Wendt: (Saved Wed May 23 21:40:08 2007) Please get back to me in e-mail regarding this, I do not like having people just make offbase comments on me. I&#8217;d have loved to have a conversation with you today but apparently you&#8217;ve logged out already. Bye.<br />
[22:00]  DesertWolf Longstaff: sorry froze while reading..<br />
[22:01]  Honey Wendt: Ok<br />
[22:01]  Honey Wendt: As you can see she came out pretty childish and pretending not to hear what I said, none of her comments were posted on her blog so it looks very skewed.<br />
[22:01]  DesertWolf Longstaff: I read your email, and went back to Vint&#8217;s post<br />
[22:02]  Honey Wendt: Me and a couple of friends were wondering what exactly she was fishing, then someone realized she knew her name.<br />
[22:02]  Honey Wendt: She is an age-play advocate right?<br />
[22:02]  Honey Wendt: Yep compare them.<br />
[22:02]  DesertWolf Longstaff: Hold on, let me catch up on what you posted while I was froze&#8230;<br />
[22:02]  Honey Wendt: This is what I gathered, she was just very annoyed by my age-play story.<br />
[22:03]  Honey Wendt: While I never really thought much of it since the Lidnen deal, most people know it was about a transgender story not an age-play story <img src='http://2ndlifer.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
[22:06]  DesertWolf Longstaff: OK, first, I am not Vint&#8217;s alt..<br />
[22:06]  Honey Wendt: Ah ok, you both are new and born within 1 day, I thought you might be but use of language is very different.<br />
[22:07]  DesertWolf Longstaff: SHe is from Europe,  and has some problems with some of her english<br />
[22:07]  Honey Wendt: Does she avocate age-play?<br />
[22:07]  DesertWolf Longstaff: well that is not a fair question to ask me&#8230;it is something you should ask her.<br />
[22:08]  Honey Wendt: Reason I ask is, that day someone mentioned they&#8217;ve seen some stuff for sale by her in a mall about age-play.<br />
[22:08]  Honey Wendt: And her outrage at the age-play kinda seemed that way to me, no I&#8217;m just trying to see if that&#8217;s her angle cause I&#8217;m quite lost as to what she&#8217;s trying to say?<br />
[22:09]  Honey Wendt: Maybe she just loves Lindens uncoditionally and cannot see them in the wrong<br />
[22:09]  DesertWolf Longstaff: Could be there is, I would say you should go and see for yourself, then ask her about it.<br />
[22:09]  DesertWolf Longstaff: No, that I know is not so..<br />
[22:09]  Honey Wendt: Oh no i&#8217;m not that interested in that<br />
[22:10]  DesertWolf Longstaff: Well you should at least verify the information you were given, shouldn&#8217;t you?<br />
[22:10]  Honey Wendt: Age-play is an interesting concept, I&#8217;ve spoken to people who are PG age-players and I totally respect what they do.<br />
[22:10]  Honey Wendt: I did verify<br />
[22:10]  Honey Wendt: I only posted sexual age-play stories.<br />
[22:10]  Honey Wendt: Which information are you speaking of?<br />
[22:11]  DesertWolf Longstaff: No I ment what you just said about Vint selling age play related goods&#8230;<br />
[22:11]  Honey Wendt: I&#8217;m not interested in her<br />
[22:11]  DesertWolf Longstaff: You ask enough questions about her&#8230;<br />
[22:11]  Honey Wendt: Well since it concerned her<br />
[22:11]  Honey Wendt: yes, I had to ask.<br />
[22:12]  Honey Wendt: Oh her profile it says she does sell a book on age-play.<br />
[22:12]  Honey Wendt: Why are you against me?<br />
[22:12]  DesertWolf Longstaff: age play, and sexual age play are two very diffrent things..<br />
[22:12]  Honey Wendt: I was really paitent with her, very polite but she you saw how she spoke.<br />
[22:12]  Honey Wendt: That&#8217;s true.<br />
[22:13]  Honey Wendt: I&#8217;ve done interviews with PG age-players, but I wont post them on the blog cause it would cause negative attention now.<br />
[22:13]  Honey Wendt: Even if it&#8217;s a good article.<br />
[22:13]  DesertWolf Longstaff: I am not against you in your general feelings against sexual age players<br />
[22:14]  DesertWolf Longstaff: but the way you go about things, that is what bothers me..<br />
[22:14]  Honey Wendt: I&#8217;m not against sexual age play either, I&#8217;m against an extreme form of sexual age play.<br />
[22:14]  Honey Wendt: I dont care if you have your gf call you daddy.<br />
[22:14]  Honey Wendt: Do you understand<br />
[22:14]  Honey Wendt: Which way was that?<br />
[22:14]  DesertWolf Longstaff: I do not support sexual age play..<br />
[22:14]  Honey Wendt: Mr. Longstaff, I have several articles on age play, we are talking about Lolita McAllister?<br />
[22:15]  Honey Wendt: Can you explain what exactly it is that bothers you?<br />
[22:16]  Honey Wendt: I&#8217;ve exhausted every way of trying to deal with them.<br />
[22:16]  Honey Wendt: Abuse is something I understand pretty well, and these types of things usually end up in that.<br />
[22:17]  DesertWolf Longstaff: You obviously read my last comment to Vint&#8217;s post..did you read my earlier one?<br />
[22:17]  Honey Wendt: No I&#8217;m reading what you just said Mr Longstaff.<br />
[22:17]  Honey Wendt: [22:14]  DesertWolf Longstaff: but the way you go about things, that is what bothers me..<br />
[22:18]  Honey Wendt: So, I&#8217;d like to know what this way is, I like it when someone points out something about me that might be faulty.<br />
[22:19]  Honey Wendt: You meant the method used? Medium or style? I&#8217;m not sure, I&#8217;m confused now.<br />
[22:19]  DesertWolf Longstaff: DesertWolf Longstaff wrote a comment on May 15, 2007 MyAvatars 0.2  Well from my point of view she is walking a very thin ethics line, and is actually on the wrong side of it! She does not treat the people she is talking with the same respect she expects to be shown her. In fact her actions are worse, because she puts the conversations out on the internet for everyone to see, where as the people she threatens with reporting to the Lindens only passed the conversation on to other concerned parties, not where they can be seen by everyone. I understand her stand on age play, and in some ways agree with her, but her methods are wrong, and in the end I feel will backfire on her. If she suppose to be on the moral high ground, well she fell off the other side of it with her actions.<br />
[22:20]  Honey Wendt: That&#8217;s why I thought you were VInct<br />
[22:20]  Honey Wendt: You do understand that outside SL, Linden Labs have no rights to anything we do? Other than defame them (corp law)<br />
[22:21]  DesertWolf Longstaff: yes, but just because something is not illeagal does not make it right&#8230;<br />
[22:21]  Honey Wendt: And Mr. Longstaff how can you justify saying that, what they did was wrong it&#8217;s illegal within SL, I was going after the &#8220;Abuse report system&#8221; which failed me.<br />
[22:21]  Honey Wendt: Are you seriously defending these people?<br />
[22:21]  DesertWolf Longstaff: the Lindens or the age players?<br />
[22:22]  Honey Wendt: Age-players.<br />
[22:22]  Honey Wendt: I read what you posted, please read it yourself.<br />
[22:22]  DesertWolf Longstaff: I am not defending the age players, but you seem to have too diffrent standards you work by<br />
[22:23]  Honey Wendt: I REPORTED IT.</p>
<p><em><strong>5/24/07 13:40 SLT  I went back over my post and noticed the end had not posted..am adding it here&#8230;.</strong></em></p>
<p>&lt;&#8211; sorry for the caps. Reported it for months, Lolita McAllister was in the news in Dec for the same reason. Many MANY people reported her, well before you came to SecondLife. Prokofy never wrote about a protest against her.<br />
[22:23]  Honey Wendt: Nothing was done about it.<br />
[22:23]  Honey Wendt: Lindens just turned around and did nothing.<br />
[22:23]  Honey Wendt: So the AR system (abuse report system) failed us.<br />
[22:24]  Honey Wendt: What was left was something like this to get her to stop that escort service.<br />
[22:24]  Honey Wendt: I mean prokofy wrote about it on her blog too.. there was protest against Lolita 5-6 months ago.<br />
[22:24]  Honey Wendt: I think we have a disconnect conversation going?<br />
[22:25]  Honey Wendt: If your too busy we can have this conversation another time <img src='http://2ndlifer.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
[22:25]  DesertWolf Longstaff: I was not active back then..<br />
[22:25]  DesertWolf Longstaff: but yes, can we pick this up again later?<br />
[22:26]  Honey Wendt: Fine, but the thing I wrote about was a failure by Linden Labs to act on their abuse system.<br />
[22:26]  DesertWolf Longstaff: I do not disagreee with that<br />
[22:26]  Honey Wendt: I&#8217;m having a busy week, so I&#8217;d rather if we can end this tonight.<br />
[22:26]  DesertWolf Longstaff: that is fine..<br />
[22:26]  Honey Wendt: So, I fail to see how you could disagree with this. What was your disagreemnent?<br />
[22:27]  DesertWolf Longstaff: in your approach<br />
[22:27]  Honey Wendt: Explain that<br />
[22:27]  DesertWolf Longstaff: you ran a double standard<br />
[22:27]  Honey Wendt: You&#8217;ve told me about aproach, about style, etc.<br />
[22:27]  Honey Wendt: What double standard?<br />
[22:27]  Honey Wendt: Can you give examples, proof, it&#8217;s very easy my blog is there point to something.<br />
[22:28]  Honey Wendt: I think you don&#8217;t have all the information on this Mr. LongStaff, maybe you should gather more information/research and then find some time to discuss this with me?<br />
[22:28]  DesertWolf Longstaff: That would be my pleasure..<br />
[22:28]  Honey Wendt: This story in question has been happening for a while, it&#8217;s even happening now, I could show you the place if you want.<br />
[22:29]  Honey Wendt: Well the sim name is given, do some investigation of your own <img src='http://2ndlifer.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
[22:29]  Honey Wendt: But I can assure you<br />
[22:29]  Honey Wendt: these were no innocent people.<br />
[22:29]  Honey Wendt: And they were not doing even random ageplay similar to calling each other daddy/daughter.<br />
[22:30]  Honey Wendt: I&#8217;m sure you understand.<br />
[22:30]  DesertWolf Longstaff: let us get back to this later&#8230;OK?<br />
[22:30]  Honey Wendt: Mr. Longstaff, I don&#8217;t suppose you&#8217;ve ever been abused RL.<br />
[22:31]  DesertWolf Longstaff: let me do some more reading<br />
[22:31]  Honey Wendt: I have been and I know how this causes pain, things like this developed into worse things.<br />
[22:31]  DesertWolf Longstaff: no, I have not,<br />
[22:31]  Honey Wendt: Then you should not question.<br />
[22:31]  DesertWolf Longstaff: but I work at an adoption and foster care agency<br />
[22:31]  Honey Wendt: And it&#8217;s very wrong to assume they are innocent.<br />
[22:31]  Honey Wendt: They are not.<br />
[22:32]  Honey Wendt: you havent seen the things I&#8217;ve seen in SL.<br />
[22:32]  Honey Wendt: SL is a lot tamer now<br />
[22:32]  Honey Wendt: goodnight.<br />
[22:32]  DesertWolf Longstaff: probably not<br />
[22:32]  DesertWolf Longstaff: goodnight</p></blockquote>
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